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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 16 2011, 01:52 PM (861 Views) | |
| -Spike- | Oct 16 2011, 01:52 PM Post #1 |
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Kage
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Uchiha, Intuition was hit by Suiton Suikoudan!(1239.36) that wasn't blocked. Uchiha, Intuition was hit by Suiton Suikoudan!(529.35) that was. either suiton is OP or impenetrable is bugged. yes, it's maxed. |
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| Tsukioni | Oct 16 2011, 01:52 PM Post #2 |
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Nffyaoi<3
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Suiton IS op. |
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| -Spike- | Oct 16 2011, 01:58 PM Post #3 |
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Kage
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oh btw, as a disclaimer. this topic isn't a complaint thread, it's a thread to help the owners notice that there is an unbalance in the game. if you want to balance it, then you'll be ok with it. if not, well, just delete it i guess. |
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| Takashi | Oct 16 2011, 01:59 PM Post #4 |
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Lol? 500 stamina is shit. Your fault for not getting some stamina at character creation. |
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| Rurouni | Oct 16 2011, 02:11 PM Post #5 |
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Suiton is not OP. |
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I don't know what you been told in your ear But I hear it's goin' down, somebody gotta (Die!) | |
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| xxxxyobdab | Oct 16 2011, 02:19 PM Post #6 |
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Its just suiton has no damage over time jutsu so the damage is all in one hit. Sadly fire which is a damage over has its maximum damage spread over time....ppl run out and only recieve a portion. However fire has both impact damage(like suiton) and a duration(like fuuton) So suiton only seems op because you recieve the maximum damage in one hit. Where as fuuton or katon you walk or shunshin out of the damage. |
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| Uharuu | Oct 16 2011, 02:21 PM Post #7 |
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Suiton is not op, raiton is. |
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| Doom | Oct 16 2011, 02:23 PM Post #8 |
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raiton oped.. |
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| -Spike- | Oct 16 2011, 02:59 PM Post #9 |
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I have stamina dumbfuck. But when there's more than one shark that does 500 when you block and you aren't going to block every time, obviously you're going to get KOed. Some guy can use 15 sharks. If suiton is going to hit that hard even if blocked, dango should hit for around 5k if blocking an 11k boulder. Punches should do half off. |
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| Morgan | Oct 16 2011, 03:03 PM Post #10 |
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Take note that Suiton lacks a 1hko and our only vit hitting move is fang. All other eles hit vit so our damage isn't really that op because the average player (In their prime) has over 6k stam. Edited by Morgan, Oct 16 2011, 03:06 PM.
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| Fox | Oct 16 2011, 03:12 PM Post #11 |
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I might not know what im talking about do to my absence, but as someone said earlier up Suiton often gives the impression of being OP because it does all of it's damage at one time or in extremely quick burst as seen with the sharks. (Exception shiny water fall of pretty). This more or less makes it easy to use or user friendly and most things that are easy to use and user friendly are generally OP. So lets get super technical with this with a map of sutions +'s and -'s and compare them to the most balanced element (In your opinion). I'd do it myself but I haven't been here for a while. I'll start with the map of suiton! Homing Techniques + Burst Damage + Deletes Katon + Block - Water Tiles Required - Deleted by doton - Even amount of +'s and -'s (We're of to a good start :D) |
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http://users.pop.umn.edu/~matt0350/images/forumcrap/october/scream.pdf Someone once said "be the you you wanna be", and that's just how I feel now to. | |
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| Tsukioni | Oct 16 2011, 03:18 PM Post #12 |
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Nffyaoi<3
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Suiton now has a passive that allows it to be made off water; if you go full suiton, you'll have op damage and off water abilities. Plus they have another passive to increase their sharks. Block doesn't do shit anymore when the normal damage unblocked is 2k+ Doton deletion is based off knowledge, and no one is pure doton or even has doton. |
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| Fox | Oct 16 2011, 03:38 PM Post #13 |
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Add those onto the list, say more weaknesses if you know them to. I'd like it for full differences to be seen between the elements. Suiton's focus would be burst damage, Katon's should be DoT Damage, Fuuton's should be utility, Raiton's should be crowd control, and Doton's should be defensive. The above statement doesn't have much to do with suiton being OP but it does give me another idea for a topic :D? Because atm to "nerf" what suiton something else would have to be buffed, or a lot of things would have to get nerfed. Otherwise that "But this is stronger than that nerf/buff plox." reflix well kick in. Argon & Korona have several options if they chose to look into the complaints. Well they rework the mechanics of suiton, well they reduce suitons overall damage or give people more stamina? It'd be nice if their was a test server that they could do this in isolation and try out all three. But it's annoying to hear that this or that is OP without someone saying exactly what is OP about it. It's like a kid in school saying that they don't understand what exactly do you not understand?" What exactly is wrong with suiton? Does it hit to hard? Is blocking it ineffective? Does it hit to fast? etc etc Edited by Fox, Oct 16 2011, 03:43 PM.
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http://users.pop.umn.edu/~matt0350/images/forumcrap/october/scream.pdf Someone once said "be the you you wanna be", and that's just how I feel now to. | |
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| Tsukioni | Oct 16 2011, 03:42 PM Post #14 |
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Nffyaoi<3
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Please come back to NFF. I like you better than Tanner. |
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| Fox | Oct 16 2011, 03:45 PM Post #15 |
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Black Mask
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Argh you quoted me before I edited my post all the way. :( Come respond so we can discuss this in a civil manor. |
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http://users.pop.umn.edu/~matt0350/images/forumcrap/october/scream.pdf Someone once said "be the you you wanna be", and that's just how I feel now to. | |
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